Save or Die Podcast #7: The Red Dragon


Join the crew as they sit back and talk about their week in gaming, then defend their way through weapon damage as they attack the most iconic D&D dragon there is, the RED DRAGON! This week’s adventure is ended with a nice review of Thorkhammer’s Module! Check it out!

5 comments on “Save or Die Podcast #7: The Red Dragon”

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  2. The Secret DM™

    The bit about Orc racism reminded me of a scene from one of my old campaigns: The players were responding to “savage attacks” on caravans that had plagued a particular region, and stumbled upon the massive orc camp in their travels. They were about to run in and start slaughtering orcs, but then I revealed the orc society (at least in my game world) was a nomadic hunter-gatherer group…i.e. among this tribe were women and children…the players paused. Not the fighter so much, who could care less and wanted to run in killing people…but the cleric had to take a step back and start questioning what actions would be defined as “just” and “lawful” when the enemy you’re facing is composed of civilians?

    Obviously the fighter won out when he ran in and started slaughtering orc babies and mothers…but for the five minutes prior to that, there was a unique kind of tension at the game table, and I thoroughly enjoyed it.

    As for the “Orient”, as I’m sure you’ll get e-mails on (if not other comments), it’s my understanding that “orient” is a bad word when used as a noun, but that certain ‘historical’ uses are allowed, which I think this book from classic gaming would constitute.

    Although the argument against I’ve always heard has been that “the orient refers to the Middle East, not the Far East” and that “oriental” describes inanimate objects, like rugs, as opposed to being a way of describing people.

    Great podcast again — keep up the incredible work!

  3. Death Metal Nightmare

    basically its Orient (eastern, “sun rising”) vs. Occident (western, “sun falling”). i wouldnt say its the same calling someone a westerner vs. oriental, since it was the west usually defining history through power of who “others” are. its the whole reason the word “oriental” picked up negative connotations in the first place, cause a bunch of goofballs just started calling everyone “an oriental”. where as “westerner” has connotations of triumph, progress, and all those other overhyped notions, etc

    as for the Orc stuff.. whatever. i get the sentiment, but as you guys said, its a game. if someone wants to try to blur the lines in their campaign like the poster above, its not bad idea for roleplaying. and its not always impossible, just like Dragons, to have orcs or whoever, to have tendencies to other alignments or motives.

    also, where is the link for that supplement! was really interested in taking a look at that.

  4. mothshade

    “He Who Shall Not Be Named” was Hastur long before it was Voldemort.

    The Carcosa link takes me to something about LED TV.

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